Y-dna Haplogroup CF: Originated by 72500 - 68000 BCE (70000 - 74500 BP) ... Place unknown... Suspected places of origin: North East Africa, Middle East & South Asia... Descendants: C (C-M130) & F (F-M89) Y-dna Haplogroup C: C or C-M130: Originated atleast 60 kya... Place of origin: Central Asia or East Asia... Alternative opinion: by 53kya but this one is proven wrong anyways as stated below... "Haplogroup C-M130 seems to have come into existence shortly after SNP mutation M168 occurred for the first time, bringing the modern Haplogroup CT into existence, from which Haplogroup CF, and in turn Haplogroup C, derived. This was probably at least 60,000 years ago..." More info: C-M130 expansion in East Asia is suggested to have started approximately 40,000 years ago... C1 is found primitive in Melanesians, Polynesians, half of Australian aboriginals, Upper Paleolithic & Mesolithic hunter gatherers of Western & Eastern Europe, Upper Paleolithic fossil in Western E...